Subject	Re: I'm not sure I make the "connection" (pun intended)
Posted by	rich@splparts.com on June 03, 2004 at 10:48 AM
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In Reply To	I'm not sure I make the "connection" (pun intended) posted by robo (sebring1970) on June 03, 2004 at 10:32 AM
Message	With the stock or poly bushings the lower control arm will be allowed to move fore and aft (imagine the arm getting pulled back slightly when you hit a pothole). This will place a load on the upper control arm that they were never designed to deal with and cause premature bearing wear (and in other adjustable control arms it might break welds too). With adjustable tension rods with solid rod ends, the position of the control arm is fixed (in terms of fore/aft) movement. AIM = SPLParts INCREASE SPEED.....DROP DOWN....AND REVERSE DIRECTION!!!!!!
Follow Ups	what are the benifits-pros,cons to poly bushings over - nd4spd 08:13:34 06/03/04 If you need caster adjustment then you need adjustable - YugoBernie (NoVA) 08:18:15 06/03/04 What's your take on this? - Junxster (NoVA) 08:48:31 06/03/04 Hard to fine tune, you really need adjustment to compenstate - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:41:29 06/03/04 some would also say the solid bushing adjustable rods - Guapo 08:49:42 06/03/04 I'd say that. (n/m) - Tu 09:00:46 06/03/04 Over stock, but my SPL adjustable rods feel similiar to poly (n/m) - SooperZ95 09:22:13 06/03/04 I dont think i need any adjustments so if the feel and the - nd4spd 09:39:51 06/03/04 Marginal @ best vs. the ES bushings, esp. when you do the - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:40:14 06/03/04 This guy is obsessed with tension rods and bushings - Ben_96_Slicktop (VA) 09:16:40 06/03/04 2nd. (n/m) - Chaaarmndr (NoVa) 09:23:09 06/03/04 What, you mean you never do that? - SooperZ95 09:23:45 06/03/04 Mechanicality? (n/m) - Black Mammoth (VA) 09:36:52 06/03/04 do you HAVE to use adjustable T-rods if you also have - robo (sebring1970) 09:55:55 06/03/04 they do 2 different things, camber and caster (n/m) - Halo Z 09:58:37 06/03/04 oh yeah, no, you don't hhave to have one, withthe other. (n/m) - Halo Z 09:59:02 06/03/04 Actually, both Courtesy & SPL recommend new T-rods w/ A-arms - SooperZ95 10:11:41 06/03/04 which "bearings" are they talking about? the ones - robo (sebring1970) 10:16:58 06/03/04 Yes, the bearings in the upper arms. That's my take on it. (n/m) - SooperZ95 10:20:26 06/03/04 I'm not sure I make the "connection" (pun intended) - robo (sebring1970) 10:32:40 06/03/04 Re: I'm not sure I make the "connection" (pun intended) - rich@splparts.com 10:48:07 06/03/04 but I can envision it both ways, that the solid T-rods - robo (sebring1970) 13:07:33 06/03/04 Yes. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 10:59:54 06/03/04 where are the "bearings" in the upper a arms? (n/m) - Halo Z 12:48:40 06/03/04 Re: where are the "bearings" in the upper a arms? - Guapo 12:54:35 06/03/04 :c) (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 13:08:31 06/03/04 interesting.... - Halo Z 16:38:04 06/03/04 Yes. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 17:27:16 06/03/04 recommend is not "needed" - Halo Z 10:34:23 06/03/04 I think your ES bushings would count as "solid type T-rods" (n/m) - SooperZ95 10:44:25 06/03/04 no they don't (n/m) - Guapo 10:47:14 06/03/04 I concurr. Even though the poly's are alot stiffer than - robo (sebring1970) 13:13:32 06/03/04 It's something about the stock/poly bushing... - SuparexTT 16:55:05 06/03/04 So does Midori Seibi (n/m) - PEwithaZ 11:34:32 06/03/04 the cost of your alignment can go up the more adjustable - robo (sebring1970) 10:09:09 06/03/04 funny thing about this, sears and some other shops have - Halo Z 10:41:57 06/03/04 local NTB did mine for $79 with a year of "re-dos" - Guapo 10:58:22 06/03/04 What specs did you specify? I'm going to have a race - boileralum 11:05:11 06/03/04 that is awesome, but I'm not sure it would be easy to - robo (sebring1970) 13:02:52 06/03/04 OMG, i about dies when i called for alignment... - SuparexTT 16:56:55 06/03/04 Called a shop the local Porsche guy sends his customers to.. - SuparexTT 17:02:57 06/03/04 I don't think the four wheel part is that big of a deal. - robo (sebring1970) 06:38:35 06/04/04 Poly bushings can create bind if installed incorrectly. (n/m) - Taks 17:02:52 06/03/04 how can you "incorrectly" install a poly bushing? (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 06:35:19 06/04/04
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